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  1. and the fact that Jay was second place 2008 Mr. Olympia proves that there are maintenance issues with water, muscle separation/thickness, vascularity, maintaining condition at Jays 2009 dialed in onstage. so somebody can try and say that bigger is natural, is easier… oh, yeah, but versus Dexter beat Jay once in 2008, what is the saying? If it happens once, it can happen again, may not always be forever, but it can happen again, may not always be forever. Big Dog Chopper

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